I trying to figure out how to disclose a simultaneous loan on the Loan Estimate. We don’t have these too often so I forget when we do get them. We are using the alternate cash to close as this is a refinance. If the new first mortgage and second are going to be paying off a larger mortgage would I subtract the amount of the payoff so that the LE shows the customer brining in zero dollars to closing as the second mortgage will be paying the rest of the original loan off?